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    Syphon Filter 4 - Analysis

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    Syphon Filter 4 - Analysis

    Post by manofXtreme on 17.01.14 22:59





    Analysis with the latest news - (constantly updated topic)


    Introduction:
    In short: We have no idea whether Syphon Filter 4 will be announced or not. Sony Bend Studio (developer of the Syphon Filter franchise) is very quiet, if not the quietest from SCEWWS (Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios). We have too less information and all we found about Syphon Filter 4 in the internet yet are rumours which won't really help us.
    I have contacted an editor in-chief (that is responsible for Syphon Filter news) to expand my knowledge for this.
    And since we are so interested in a new Syphon Filter, I'm going to make a list of all pro and contra arguments whether there will ever be a Syphon Filter 4 or not.




    Analysis:


    Pro:
    - Sony accidentally announced Syphon Filter 4 on their page and removed it soon after. The game was listed as under development at the SCE London Studios which would run on a completely new engine.

    - In the Official PlayStation Magazine, following has been stated: "SCE Bend is currently hard at work on Uncharted: Golden Abyss, but its hush-hush Vita project is a return to Syphon Filter." - (which actually is only an opinion)

    - Shuhei Yoshida mentioned: "Sony never retires any franchise"

    - At the E3 2012, many logos of upcoming games have been shown on the big screen - including the Syphon Filter 3 logo (see it - on the top left)

    - John Garvin once said that he still loves the Syphon Filter series and wants to develop another title

    - Bend said: "We just scratched the surface on what the Vita can do with Uncharted Golden Abyss and expect to push the platform even further with our future projects." - This means Bend could be also working on a PS Vita game

    - Microsoft has got Metal Gear Solid V and Ubisoft has got Splinter Cell Black List - But Sony has no stealth games - Return of Syphon Filter would be a good turn

    - Shuhei Yoshida confirms that every Sony-owned studio is working on a PS4-title. Also: Rick Stadler's LinkedIn-profile (senior artist for SCEA) confirms that Bend Studio's PS4-title will be an action/adventure game. That could mean either another Uncharted game or Syphon Filter 4

    - Shuhei Yoshida said: “We are continuing with some of the big franchises, but many studios are trying out something new.” - This sentence contradicts itself but good to know

    - Shuhei Yoshida: "Sony Bend's PS4 game will make you panic"



    Contra:
    - Now this is heavy: Look at John Garvin's post: here. Then scroll down to the 13. comment, read it. Then scroll down to the 38. comment by Garvin and read the line where he refers to @C-h-a-o-s. Yeah unfortunately he's not joking. But what does John Garvin mean with "it is real"? Is Logan's death real or is Logan's injury real? Garvin wasn't quite direct with that.

    - The president of SCEWWS (Shuhei Yoshida) supposedly never really liked Syphon Filter. Will he be interested in Syphon Filter now since SCEWWS has no stealth games?




    Conclusion:
    If you have read everything you still don't know whether Syphon Filter 4 is coming or not. Funny but true. At least, we know what those Sony guys have said yet about Bend and Syphon Filter.
    If you're not sure if a new Syphon Filter would be profitable for Sony Bend Studio, have a look at this calculation made by me.
    Sony Bend could actually be working for any game, maybe even a new Resistance or a completely new IP.
    What we definitelly know so far is that Sony Bend is working on a PS Vita game that will have multiplayer and a PS4-only game.
    I'm sure we will hear about one of Bend's next title in the next E3 2014 which will take place June 10-12.
    Live-Streaming of E3 2014 will be avaible here on this site as for every E3.

    Oh and here's an interesting video-trailer I've found. It was shown in the last E3 2013. It looks like a new stealth game (with a little advanced technology). Could it be a new Syphon Filter?

    Here's the image of the character's face again. But since this game is being developed by a studio called Black Tusk whose publisher is Microsoft, it can impossibly be a new Syphon Filter. The only reason I'm showing this to you guys is that SCEWWS really has to answer with a stealth game (hopefully Syphon Filter 4) because Microsoft has got 3 stealth games with this one!


    This topic is updated constantly, so come and have a look here now and then.
    Feel free to comment on this topic. Maybe you know something else about Syphon Filter 4? Post it!


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    Re: Syphon Filter 4 - Analysis

    Post by cocobeanz on 19.01.14 23:52

    Nice info but you're a bit misinformed. Naughty Dog is working on the next Uncharted game on PS4 - this has been announced and "Sony has no good stealth game" are you fucking joking?! Sony has the definitive stealth franchise; the game that invented the stealth genre. Seriously uke wtf is this? -



    Although MGS is branching out to multiplatform now so I suppose Sony doesn't own it anymore but it's still on Playstation. I'm pretty sure Splinter Cell is also on PS3, right? Anyway haha sorry about the rant that was just a completely ridiculous statement.


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    Re: Syphon Filter 4 - Analysis

    Post by manofXtreme on 20.01.14 12:51

    Nah you did misunderstand my statement.
    Metal Gear Solid is made by Konami whose publisher is Microsoft.

    I said "Sony has no good stealth game". Maybe that's what confused you. I should have said "SCEWWS has no good stealth game". In case you don't know: SCEWWS = Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios.

    So Microsoft has Metal Gear Solid and Ubisoft has Splinter Cell but Sony has no stealth game. They really need to react now. And yeah... continuing with Syphon Filter 4 would be perfect. With a new franchise it would be harder for Sony I think.


    Thanks for the notification about Uncharted 4 btw! Now the list should be complete and right.
    (I've added an interesting video at the end)


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    Re: Syphon Filter 4 - Analysis

    Post by dalton889 on 27.01.14 15:50

    Oh cool,I didnt know about that pretty shit post here..!! Radiant Smile


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    Re: Syphon Filter 4 - Analysis

    Post by cocobeanz on 27.01.14 19:23

    Um.....no Uke I think you don't understand. Metal Gear Solid is made by Kojima Productions whose publisher is Konami. Hahaha are you fucking high man? If Microsoft owns MGS then why the fuck has MGS been a Playstation exlcusive for 15 years. The first MGS game to be released on a Microsoft console was the HD collection which came out in 2013. MGS has been going since 1998 so that's some pretty poor business plans by Microsoft - what are you telling me they own a franchise but decide to only release it on their main competitors console? Hahaha wtf are you talking about? Also Konami is a publisher, they don't develop video games as far as I know.

    So as I said Sony owns or rather used to own the mother of all stealth games. Even though MGS has gone multiplatform now Playstation still has the widest library of MGS games and therefore the best stealth games. Also the stealth in SF was kinda crap - you could do some nice stealth runs in Dark Mirror but in Logans Shadow it's like the majority of the game the terrorists just auto detect you and you have to shoot them in the face. Lame! If there's a new SF I hope they put more emphasis on stealth. Spies are supposed to be stealthy not run around like Rambo.


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    Re: Syphon Filter 4 - Analysis

    Post by manofXtreme on 27.01.14 21:52

    Yeah however MGS is made by Kojima and that guy Hideo Kojima or however it's called sry for that, my wrong (pretty embarassing right now).

    When did I say that MGS release their games on only one console? I've never said that, duh I've played MGS even on PSP. You mustn't separate these franchises by consoles, wtf? That wouldn't even make sense thinking that way. I'm talking about the publishers.
    Look, Microsoft has a great stealth shooter game, Konami has a great stealth shooter game but SCEWWS (Sony) has no stealth shooter game. It's about their distinction.
    People would just be like "How can such a big Publisher like Sony have no stealth shooter game?!".
    Just to get what I mean, don't view this from the consoles. I mean almost every game is multiplatformed so thinking that way would be nothing to speak of.
    Sony still makes money with those games but Sony (SCEWWS) having no stealth shooter game? That's not really good. Maybe they won't even be able to beat those big franchises either way.

    And yeah I didn't like the stealth on LS either just because you get like auto detected but I loved the stealth in the SFLS or SFCO multiplayer. It worked well in night maps with silencers, you as enemy weren't able to hear the silencer shots and you could also break necks very silently or knife people. There was just one problem, when your team mate got killed in one of those ways, you were still able to recognize it because of the information-text on the top left which always made you attentive that someone's doing stealth. Also as far as I remember, sometimes you also got detected in the radar for a short time when stealth-killing someone. These were one of the things that fhuked up the stealth just a little bit but otherwise it was pretty badass.


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